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He also describes man in the state that he is born——Proverbs There is a generation that curse their father, And bless not their mother. There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, And yet are not washed from their filthiness. There is a generation, oh how lofty are their eyes! And their eyelids are lifted up. There is a generation whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, To devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men. There is a kind of man There is a kind This is what is responsible for your actions, reactions and emotional responses.

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She then asked if I would like to fuck her as she had some condoms in her bag and I agreed to this hwnds well. We fucked in different positions for about 20 minutes and I finished up blowing on her tits as well. After that she rolled me over and ses me a really nice back and head massage for the remainder of the time.

A very sexy lady and a really friendly personality as well. Again, really good value in my opinion. Hi, Have been to this massage lady Elena in East Beautiful older ladies want seduction Lawton Oklahoma who has got a website and does awesome massage.

I mean broav good one. Can anyone advise if she does any extras? I had dropped a couple of hints the first time but she didn't give me any leads. As I would love to go back to her for the massage but the extras would be an icing on the cake. Can you give me details of the broa SE places you have just posted on please. PM me if you prefer. Hi OAG, Good report. Could you give more clue where is it? Or PM me if you like.

Just want to find one place and one armms girl down here that Housewives wants real sex PA Prospect 16052 go sercvice and I will be set. Let me know if this doesn't help! Trading hours are flexible. Recently I wanted a purnt and all rnt places is North North Melb were busy. Got pissed off and for first time went to FS place.

Lots of girls ro choose from. This time tried the hour. Rooms were very clean place was very friendly and service excellent. I really had fun. Now I have no interest in anything other tha legit joints for massage and full service joints for fun. RNT joins are a joke. Service is becoming worse. Neveronce in three years have Seekkng felt as relaxed leaving as I did using full service. I'm fed up with no touch thisn no touch that, pay for this, pay for that.

The fun seems to have gonne. I'll be working out at Somerton next week. Are these good places to visit? Thanks and Merry Christmas to all. I spoke to her last week so yes she is still active. I am planning to visit her this week and will give an update. Tried Joanna on a forum recommendation as my lady was not working there that day.

She needed a little convincing seekign I was a regular but then stripped off. While she started Married sex Konovka HJ, I was able to encourage her to get on the table for some reverse massage service. Yes if I'm in the mood for such a session.

Hi, Can Cuati know Barbara phone number? The service and overall experience is exactly the same, only she's now slightly older. I have a previous report on her. She works from her 'castle' in the suburbs. She's now installed a camera so she can see when you have arrived at the front door. It starts off with her taking you upstairs to her bedroom I was working in docklands Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati and was fed up with the lack of support, so I headed over the foot bridge to dfo to have lOok saw a massage place at entrance to shopping centre, walked in saw a few ladies not bad.

Then asked for a full body massage. The Place looked promising private rooms and lots of tissue around. The guy showed me to the room and I got undressed and waited. But then he returned sttrong told me the Dowhers had changed from 60 for 1 hour to I said let me see the price list. Then he said 85 with oil and 60 with out. Ok just with out please. He then left, I waited some more, he then returned and started the massage.

Fuck now I am stuck with this little dogy dude massaging me and no chance of me asking for extra from a dude. Man did I get the shaft. Anyone else had good massage in the docklands or private res there? I'd try checking the local papers.

Although it makes you wonder. If you can get a pedicure arsm a HJ, how far can you take it? Wouldn't have mind getting a HJ from the lady who served me when I Wives seeking sex tonight CO Denver 80235 my car with petrol yesterday.

Yuletide booze but her number is just a few posts below. Chunky good tits and brown hair friendly girl, anyway I opted for a BJ which was done BB and my balls were licked and sucked to perfection and as I held her hair she proceeded to suck and lick and devour me full on with amazing gusto for about 15 mins until I shot which she swallowed and continued till I had to stop her as my Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati would have fallen off, if only it was always so good.

Slim pickings in the area and heavy LE all the time. Make sure you don't hang around too long. Hwnds a terrible massage a few days before headed to Muschlar and when I arrived all 8 girls where busy. Shit must be busy day, the boss lady, there advised that it was a low day because of the public hills.

Then more dudes turned up. Both where turned away. Ok after a 3o min wait was told it was 10 mins. I got o choose between 4 girls. All looking good and all from Korea.

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I went with a girl named pink. She was here study English a per norm. Huge cans on her and little bit of belly but great face. She had no English at all. Here te standard in BBBJ, she started with cat bath, followed by nipple touching and bowing air. She then kissing my body down to my cock and sucked hard for 10 mins straight. Really smashing my cock felt great. Then into 3 pos, cow girl, mis and doggie. Finished with cum on here tits. BTW she did get in the shower and wash me very well before.

Will return to this place and see her again. Ok, been wanting to ask this question for a while. When checking the adult services section on the papers, there are often places advertised that state "no sex".

This probably sounds obvious but what exactly does "sex" mean? I've always read it as no sexual services whatsoever, only I was staying at Mornington a Beautiful couples looking casual dating West Fargo or so ago, was tempted to go to this massage place that had 2 front entrances. I checked the papers, hoping they would advertise their rates, only to find those 2 dreaded words.

Has anyone managed a HJ from such a venue? The onther thing messing with my head is if you are going to add no adult services, then why are you advertising in the adult services section! Don't use the search function at the top right of screen, I can never get that damn thing right. I can feel a trip out to Glenn Waverly coming on. She may not be to everyone's tastes, but I found her quite charming and she gave a truly professional performance.

Apart from the main course massage, rimming, HJ, BBBJ, CIMshe gives Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati the full beauty treatment; toenails, feet buffing, nose and ear hair removal yes, I'm not 30 any more seekig eyebrow trim.

Everything but a grease and oil change. She is one busy lady! By the way, she is more 50 than the advertised 37 sx came to Australia 30 years ago as an adult but well preserved and has worked "all my life with feet", hence that rather unusual specialization. Maybe not one for the weekly roster, but worth trying if you want a different and rewarding experience. A couple of sessions during the week. Visited Wellington st during the week.

This place was flat out during a day visit. Would not have minded the mamasan but she seemed pretty focused on the collecting the money. There were four girls on; two Malays, an Iranian and a Viet.

Told two did nude all did " happy ending" Allocated a Malay girl "Kitty". At 45 minutes Cici disappears and to my delight in walks Chloe. Very nice looking, dressed in black.

Surroundings are pretty basic. Chloe says she does not usually do massage but I see from other forum reports that she does She says they have good staff who look after you. Yes I would take her for strkng spin, only down side is that her pussy is bit loose, was it before?

If you are cunning you will be surprised what you can xhati if you just ask and use the magic words "tips" Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati talks. Have had any good exp with rnt or p4p? Gave one a go, and you'll agree with me. Paid a friendly visit to Highett today. I had been muecular once, posted about a dud experience and then recieved feedback that it wasnt a bad place and maybe I just needed to persist.

Well this is in no way having a go at the kind punter who posted a reply to mine, I thank him for his input, this is just me calling how the second visit went down. Walk in and see the manasan behind reception and 2 or 3 of the girls sitting around playing on their mobile phones as they do these day.

Girl seekibg in, chubby PRC girl by the name of Danni. Average massage, nothing even close to the ams or cock. I may have misunderstood but I am pretty sure she told me I could pull myself off entering the 25 minute mark of the massage? I would stay home and do that if I wanted to. Thats why you go to your dodgy AMP! She asked me a couple of times if I was ok, clearly my "yeah, fine" wasnt convincing cause after she walked out the chato walks in as I am slipping the jeans back on, and she also asks if I am ok.

I am just about to tell her Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati no, I aint council or undercover and what Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati want is some nice fun with one of your girls" but she quickly ducked her head back out the door and was showing another customer into a room with a reasonable looking girl?

Again, does anyone have any good Visiting memorial women seeking cock family about this place. Do I cut my losses after, for me, another dud?

All I am trying to do since moving down to the SE suburbs is find one good place with one great girl and I will be set. The long drives out to Spring St and Nancy, whilst she is a cracker armss really worth it, are starting to wear me down. I've been wanting to try some new places in Footscray, I decided to go to a new house listed on website oodle. Nice lady Jessica answered door not to old not too young but nice body, she is the manager and also worker, there was another lady there from Korea younger but Jessica looked better seking my opinon.

Massage wasnt the best just quick up and down all over type a bit rushed not sensual at all but wow did she have a great body unfortunaley she kept her nickers on for womans reasons. Great boobs not saggy or too small, when it came to the roll over she let me touch them and kiss and lick them as I do. She started with the quick hard cock pull which most of the Chinese do, but I told her slower and sec gentle, gives me more time to lick and suck her nipples which did get hard.

All Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati all it was well worth it and I will be back. She told me there another girl, Japanese that works there too I will try her next time.

Happy new year or as the Viets say Chuc mung nam moi. If you are looking for caucasian women who provide RnT, then Barabings at Johnson Street, Collingwood is worth checking out. I'm always pleasantly relieved to see a muscula line up of white caucasians who actually enjoy their work. I sometimes get a annoyed that almost every brothel and every RnT joint in Melbourne is now filled with Asians who just don't want to be there.

Nothing wrong with Asians, but they are just Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati transactional these days. I've been to Barabings a number of times and it's usually been worth the visit.

I recently Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati tested "Jade", a pleasant looking ish blonde Swiss woman. Only provided RnT no full servicebut was soft, sensual and did an expert HJ. Some of the girls there provide full service by direct negotiation in the room, but most won't. Through observation I've noticed that the girls who don't provide full service don't consider themselves to be prostitutes.

They are in a different zone mentally. They are convinced that they are providing a "service" to man. One White oak WV bi horney housewifes to prevent yourself from going crazy. They are also particular in the way you treat them. For example, with a Downees provider in a brothel, you can push the boundaries a bit more and get away with more as the girls are in tune.

It's like you're dealing with your girlfriend at times! No names of the places visited, no addresses, no names of the girls seen. You expecting us to solve the mystery? There's only about a places in the 'south east'. This is not just a forum to boast of your sexual conquests.

It's about how we can share pussy and share information. So why don't we use the forum for the purpose for which it was created? So long as you are not posting email addresses or phone numbers, you are Looking for a nerdy girl to watch a movie to say what you wish. Totally agree Engine driver, lets all share our stories both good and bad, isn't that was this site is all about?

Entirely colorless although another punter said she huffed and puffed. She did not start to get there for me and I would not bother if I did not see her again. Chloe brroad a different fish. And strkng very very good H J. Ha, can't comment on Wife wants nsa Ocean Shores massage, because we did not go there. I suspect she would be very ok there too. I kept wondering how I could go back as she was not promoting herself in massage, other than as reception.

I would see Chloe for the massage too. She gives an excellent massage. Though is that cnati has to answer phone and. Deal with walk ins. Eva is good too and she is so tall 6 foot That she needs to kneel beside the table to Give the tug. Not a bad sight actually. I can only agree with you Engine Driver from my point of view posts are not just about the good or as you rightly put it boasting.

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How can we boast when it can hardly be called a conquest we are all when it's said and done paying for a service, I believe that the purpose of the forum was to ensure that like minded men were not ripped off and to make sure that doesn't happen we should be as informative as possible. For example if we found the lead Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati Cracker or Locanto surely we can point in that direction or name the local paper that an ad may have appeared in.

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This sum will buy you a 15 minute RnT from a caucasian woman who will do a nude body slide and will give you a sensual HJ. Woken have nice clean showers and fresh linen as well. A world away from your regular PRC run rip-off joint. No chance of contracting conjunctivitis or other nasties from the chait here.

Touching of her breasts and ass is OK, but not pussy. If you've found some extra money in your car ashtray, you can ask for a few extras. Otherwise, its DIY hand relief while fondling the chick's ass and tits. Now there's something mildly erotic about jacking off in front of a hot chica without the fear of being arrested. Every time I go there, Helen's empire seems to be growing all the time with more and more rooms being added.

Obviously many Dowenrs are enjoying being xex by a young Asian girl with absolutely no massage skills. The only problem with Holiday Calm is that it's strictly business and offers no extras. Many punters have tried and tried but have gotten nowhere. You will need to drive home with a severe case of blue balls and hope your missus is in a good mood after a day of post-Christmas shopping with Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati credit card.

You might get lucky at home! Hey its good to see Club Striptease is still going. I don't see it advertised in the locals and had guessed it was rubbed out with all the others. Had a couple of fun visits there. While I'm here, can anybody comment on the current state of police enforcement on RnT places. Anybody been caught up.

Seems in the Eastern locals at least the number of likley 'massage' places hasnt changed much. And dear ol, crazy Mamasan from Ringwood. Is she still around? Half hour of so so massage but you will need another twenty for a ending and another 70 for full Sexy lady wants nsa Rockville Maryland. Roughish woman hey it is the valley but good atitude.

The boss eventually either sets them straight or weeds them out which is somewhat hypocritical of her. The lyrics of a Midnight Oil song had the words "Short memory, must have a, Short memory" come to mind and I wonder if the boss has ever heard of it? African woman from South Bend Indiana ladies will rub and tickle the nuts for you if you are into the do it yourself finishes and Farmersville TX adult personals to be a regular but lets face it most of the ladies there can't really massage.

It's clean, friendly and doesn't break the bank but it's as far from a decent RnT joint as you will find. Adelaise you are expecting more then you might be disappointed. I would like to share my recent experience at Westide x and Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati anyone else has been on the end of it.

Where are all the caucasian girls these days seems to be less of them everytime. Everyone knows the answer. The reason you don't see too muscjlar white caucasian women in the sex industry nowadays is because Australia as a whole has become a lot more prosperous.

With unemployment running at a low of 5 percent, there is no longer any economic necessity for white women to go into the trade. No one becomes a prostitute because they Downeers to. There has been a huge increase in migration from Asia over the past Looking for livein domme years. I remember about 20 to 25 years ago in Melbourne and Sydney when every RnT joint or brothel was full of nice, young caucasian women.

Times were tougher then with high unemployment and high interest rates. I wondered how long it would take for a reaction such as yours and I also wonder if I was a senior member would you have been so irritated by it or Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati it have been acceptable to you? I'm surprised that you haven't been Any ladies tryna have fun outraged by other members' previous posts because there are a lot of them on here.

Switched was smart enough to see where I was coming from, you weren't. As for LuckyDeano, you post this brown nosed dribble "Totally agree Engine driver, lets all share our stories both good and bad, isn't that was this site is all about? Is that called shooting yourself in the foot or hnds it just called being a sheep? Ultimately some people are more cautious than others.

We've all experienced places closing down and a rash of bookings after a good report.

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Whether this is due to something posted on this forum we'll never know unless somebody comes forward and says I lurk here just to make your life difficult. In your report, nice as it was, I couldn't see any riddlespeak or clues but maybe I'm stupid. Maybe you could write something about the benefits of getting agro? Last week I joined the masses and checked out Viewpoint. The massage was Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati good without being outstanding, but the HJ finish was great.

Judging by the posts on this site it is becoming a massively popular place and they usually ask how you found it, please do NOT say you found it on the internet. Well, they may be but it is also not very probable that Single wants nsa Pearland dreaded 'feminists' have entirely taken over all govt departments including the ABS.

This isn't how men act it is how overgrown children settle their differences. And if one of them had died? We have plenty of mano-a-mano sort of nonsense going on in the streets without seeing these idiots going for it.

How many lost lives do you need to see before you are disgusted by the violence. There's two troubling aspects to this, one is No hot Charleston but u were two influential and powerful blokes who shape and define the cultural and societal landscape of this country, are so immature that they can't resolve their differences like adults.

And second is the equally moronic glee over the stoush. Even this article signs off expressing delight at the entertaining biffo. So at one end of town, we've got thugs in charge who lack the propriety to be worthy of the position they hold and at the other end town we've got mindless bogans laughing their heads off at a shameful embarrassing disgraceful violent outburst by two privileged rich boys who forgot to grow up.

This is really and truly an age of mediocrity. AT Fighting is a part of our being. Has been since before we outgrew being single cells. The main difference between a man and a boy, as noted by a few, is that the more mature generally control the neanderthal within. It really is no ones buisness but Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati and Gyngell's in my view - Austell sex dating not how I would settle a difference with my best mate but thats not the point.

Assuming you don't exert your corporate, financial Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati political power to inflict an exclusive casino at Barangaroo on us, Rocket, or that you don't run an agenda setting television network, how you settle a difference with your best mate would indeed be no ones business.

But if you operate in, impact upon and profit from the public sphere, your "character" is a matter of public interest.

Well I guess so AT but how does this reflect on the individuals involved? Does it perhaps speak to their humanity and all the failing and fragility that define our condition.

I dont think any less or any more of these two as a result of this - when friends fall out passions run high and much regretable foolishness can result. Rocket, Yes, they're all too human, I suppose. I've been reading a lot of that lately; 'this is a simple expression of the human condition', 'violence is a part of our genetic make-up', but I'm beginning to question that.

I'm not talking about unprovoked attacks by the deranged, but rather toe to toe battles between two more-or-less equals. Remove alcohol from the equation and how many fist fights between best friends do you see?

How many of them are vicious and uninhibited? How often are they played out on public streets? How many of the combatants are in their late forties?

How many fist fights between nearly 50 year old men of extreme wealth, influence and privilege do you see on a public street? The answer to most of those questions is, I think, very few. The answer to the last question was until last Sunday, I'd wager, none.

So this isn't 'just one of those things' like an argument between a married couple that happens all the time. It goes beyond the Women looking sex tonight Hidden Valley Lake of typical passionate disputation. Still, it could be argued that it's just "regrettable foolishness" that's "no ones business", but football players are suspended for such public indiscretion, politicians' careers are curtailed, ordinary citizens are severely sanctioned.

If these guys were a couple of anonymous bogans in the suburbs, you wouldn't "think any less or any more of" them, you wouldn't think of them at all. Gyngell and Packer are powerful public figures who conduct their business in public, they urge us to consume their produce and that makes them accountable to the public. Their disgraceful behaviour has proven themselves unworthy of their lofty perches and the very least they could do is front the media they so readily manipulate to suit their purposes and issue a public apology to the public for publicly debasing the public amenity.

It's the very very very least Sex tonight Schnals could do. If they'd had a brawl in a gym North branch MI housewives personals agree. But once they took it public it became public business, just as much as a street fight in King's Cross on a Friday night.

Yes there are all too many instances where death has resulted from one punch - many states have tightened their legislation to reflect the life threatening nature of even one hit. So why the emphasis on mere titillation and guffawing here? From one report I heard that one of them suffered a sickening connection with a brick wall, this prompting the security people to step in as the altercation had become dangerous.

Had it been another area of the skull Cougar seeking dick Risingsun Ohio could have been a tragic consequence. This is straight out unconscionable behavior - whoever is involved secondary. What message does it send the rest of the community if downplayed into an extension of spectator sport, or a comparative Portsmouth woman sex chatt TV entertainment?

Perhaps as the outcome wasn't so serious, it has allowed the unleashing of the so called meaningful perhaps to some at least comparatives and Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati wit of our good academic here; however apart from the Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati display of humiliating puerility, we should be focusing on the complete incorrectness of it all; instead of promulgating the current abounding double standards, and seeing it as some big joke simply because a couple of tall poppies decided to level themselves.

If one of them died from a cowards punch would the other one get fifteen years? Not only disgusting, but a sad comment on the frailty of our laws and animal instincts. To be fair there was no sneak attack there.

Gyngell made a challenge for whatever reason, Packer responded. No king hits from behind. I expect they will be having a chat with the police. A bit silly not to take it out the back and have a proper go I suppose. Well, there goes the charge of creating an affray, no one put in fear, just a bit of a laugh. I don't read the H Sun, but am told it got 7 pages today. Great example to the general public.

Apparently one of the contenders hit their head on a brick wall, so Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati Nudes in new mexico. Lonely horny Girls have been more serious than funny. So much Ado about Nothing. Personally I think this is just advertising for another reality show. The most worrying thing about all of this, is that these characters have privileged access to government.

Would Campbell Newman square up to James Packer over Packer's intention to build another unwanted by the community casino in Brisbane?. I think Campbell will be hanging on to his teeth. Come to think of it Polly, why not bring back the ancient, time-honoured method of single combat by the leaders to solve our differences? Could be a whole lot more entertaining for the masses than an hour in Question Time.

James Packer has enough casinos to stage these bouts in. We could then sell them as Pay Per View and help pay down our budget deficit. I think Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati was the Taiwanese parliament some years ago that occasionally came to biff. I think there may not have been any women in that house.

Don't always agree with all women pollies, but at least their stoushes are usually verbal. Hi Desert Woman I know that your making a joke, and I get it the spectacle would be grand. But it scrapes close to the thongs that batter line from Downer. There is a reason that professor Rosewarne uses the Game of Groans, a play of words on Game of thrones. George RR Martin is really clear that leaving justice and power to the strongest is a bad idea.

The truest knights in the book and TV show are not knighted knights, and that many high status knightly characters are monsters.

I think alluded too in a previous post in reply to Bev that sexism also enslaves men if we make the ability to win conflict the primary desirable attribute of being an alpha male or female or leader What happens to those males who cannot hope to play these roles even if they come from the right background the novels give us two examples in Tyrion Lannister and Samwell Tarly two intelligent capable often kind young men who simply do not fit in?

Their families try to kill them as they are dead wood If you haven't read the books they are brilliant the chapters are Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati and the character portraits are amazing, I would love your opinion on the Sansa chapters if you have as I feel them to be an accurate internal dialogue of a romantic teenage girl caught in an overwhelmingly bad situation. It rings true to me but I've never been a teenage girl. Sorry Closet but I don't know the references you make.

Yes, it was a joke because Polly pointed out that these men are extremely privileged and having a punch up is not how we expect such people, or anybody really, to resolve their differences.

I just extended it to highlight how ridiculous it was. A fight to the death not metaphorical between Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati and Kevin would not have been domestic violence in Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati book because there was not a supposedly loving relationship in a domestic setting.

It was a fight to the death between two professional politicians which many seem to accept as OK although the very fact that politics is a 'blood sport' should in itself be condemned as Mature women porno from Ocean Shores mass is unnecessary, and a stupid way to arrive at the best decisions.

Both violence and sexism enslave us because both are predicated on unequal relations of power and status. In an unequal world, nobody is free and slowly everybody shrinks. All their wealth and power could not prevent Packer and Gyngell from showing what insecure little boys they really are. I have a problem with condoning this violent spat or admitting that it is funny given our current violence crisis.

Why is this punch up ok and why do we find it funny? A whole other opinion piece in itself. What violence crisis, BiB? You've been watching commercial TV haven't you - be careful, that stuff can seriously distort your perceptions. I repeat "reasonably" as if that will have any effect. Australia and the world have never been less violent. Stop listening to 2UE. I may find myself out on my own with this but I see this little stoush as violence and nothing less.

You can make of it what you wish and call it retribution from the suppression of social political correctness, or you can call it two blokes just sorting I need a bj any ladies up out.

It's time we Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati Violence what it really is and stop attempting to pass it off as a category or a lesser or greater degree.

The sooner the Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati community can be involved in, and use their collective power to stamp out violence, the better. This can only occur by collectively abhorring violence and passing violence off as a political tool or a reason for bad behaviour should no longer be tolerated.

If it is, just Shy guy looking to talk to someone violence, why do we feel the need to "stamp it out" as if its the worst thing in existence?. Problems have been addressed using this medium for thousands of years, surely it has not just instantly become intolerable because of political correctness or some overly righteous interpretation of good and evil?.

Violence has been a part of getting us to the point we are at today, as a race. Why this urgent need for denying its usefulness?. Our ancestors were the most effective killer apes on this planet.

That's why Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati our ancestors and the gentle, peace-loving pandas aren't. Violence is so deeply embedded in our genetic history that it's a wonder we actually Beautiful housewives want hot sex London as peaceful as we've become, considering the overcrowding and reduction in the availability of resources of the planet.

There will be resource wars within 50 years. Tigers, sharks, and bears are pretty effective killers, much better at it than humans. We don't have particularly sharp teeth, or claws, or really that much brute strength by comparison to a lot of the animal world.

What we did have was tribe, tool use, endurance, and adaptability. Complex social structures provided a ready means for intelligence to evolve, and twenty humans with their bare hands was likely more than most apex predators really wanted to deal with. Tool use allowed us to hunt prey we would have had a great deal of trouble killing with our bare hands, let us do it much more safely, and helped us adapt to varying climates and locations.

Sweat glands and all the other adaptations humans have that let us walk for hours on end meant we could hunt some creatures literally by following them until they collapsed of exhaustion. We can survive in a very wide range of climates and with a very wide variety of foods, allowing us an ecological niche - or several - everywhere.

Wife want casual sex Gann Valley it as "we're around because our ancestors were the best killers" is wrong-headed. Killing things wasn't our central Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati - society was. Jim I'm sure Jim were I to come up and hit you, whilst you could easily protect yourself against this particular assailant, you would not expect it nor condone it.

We have moved on from that particular stage of civilising and are now at a point where respect is an understood and legally expected thing. You would not want this sort of thing happening to a loved one nor would you wish it upon any citizen, so let's just not beat around this and call violence for what it is. As I read it one of the combatants hit his head on a stone wall which could so easily have resulted in serious injury or death. You and I, my friend, would have been charged with something along the lines of Public Affray, or assault occasioning bodily harm and rightly so, why not them?

All in all, a pathetic display of violence between two men who, given their positions, should be better equipped to take their grievances to the level of debate rather than public violence. WT this is exactly why the community is confused. On one hand we have what is referred to as Domestic Violence and that seems to have the equivalent pulling power as Cancer when it comes to funding and recognition.

But violence in the back yard with the possible same results as any other violence ie; death, is just a stouch. Just as all kinds of disease can lead to death but it is cancer that captures the imagination. The community deserve better. Why is it that the squeaky doors get funding and recognition and the simple reserved community wishing to have an equally fulfilling life, are ignored.

Consequences are consequences and it shouldn't matter what name we give to them, it is outcomes that should be the test. Brian, domestic violence actually has the pulling power of a stubbed toe rather than cancer. All the crisis centres and refuges are massively under funded and under staffed with the workers putting in thousands of hours of unpaid work.

Their funding is usually at the whim of an individual and the fluctuating fortunes of a budget and is the first to get cut when times are tough, frequently with tragic if not fatal consequences for the families.

I wish I believed the community was confused but as you can see from some of the comments here, violence is accepted, indeed condoned. D W I respect what you are saying and Wife looking sex tonight TX Calvert 77837 are right to argue your point of view. In fact I actually agree with you to an extent on the funding question. But DW what just happened in your reply is what is happening with most anti-social things and that is there was a call to arms and you were there.

You rightly argue for equal funding etc. Your point of view is no more right or wrong than any other person seeking equal funding. My point is that the energy with which you gallantly argue for equality on Domestic Violence I would like to see transferred to All Violence. Your ability to argue a point such as you have in my mind is wasted by narrowing down violence to one quarter and denying the full picture. What you have said is of course the right thing, but I want that for all violence.

Brian, it did not come out in that comment because I was responding to your cancer analogy but I can assure you that I fight against violence in all its forms and against all people. You can get a hint of that from my last line. If this pair of idiots want to behave like children, so be it, but let's not publicise it. If these two are an example of the upper level businessmen of this country then heaven help the rest of us.

Brienne of Tarth would've wiped the floor with both these wimps. From my Women wants hot sex Dayton Maine of view, public brawling is an offence well, for the likes of me and I wonder if these privileged brats will be charged and fined.

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What if that had killed him? What would it be then? A game or murder? How does this stoush look to the parents of the young men who have lost their lives in a very similar fashion? What message does it send? According to new laws introduced about this kind of stuff these 'men' should be at least be questioned by police and very realistically and rightfully there should be charges laid.

What if that doesn't happen? What can we deduce from that? Before my late mother passed away she told me how relieved she was that her grandson, my son, wasn't out punching people Neanderthal behaviour should be relegated to history. I 'get' that humans are violent just look at the news but I don't see a great deal of difference between this stoush and the 10, children who have died in Syria due to the conflict there. Nor do I see it as any different to the domestic violence that men indulge in.

It's all the same. Being a man, in my view, is about having enough masculinity to be nurturing not brutal. Surely, we men, can evolve. As an aside I would be curious to Ladies seeking sex Downs Illinois the role of the psychopath discussed elsewhere on this site and man related violence be that physical or otherwise.

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Before you claim this was all misunderstood or "taken out of context", I had relatives Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati who saw the naked blood lust these events Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati. How you get from two people who have known each other for 30 years having a minor brawl to the low casualty liberation of a country from a vicious dictator or a medieval clique is beyond me.

Why were they in almost matching tracksuites, one barefooted? Who wears sunglasses to a fistfight? Who are all those other men just standing about? Is that the best footage we can get from a professional "paparazzo"? Why does the media statement feel the need to explain why a paparazzo happened to be there?

Who does this early on a Sunday morning? Why am I suspicious? Important to note it was a Sunday, he was thus on double-time. The actual value of the photos is closer to K and this whole thing was just part of a plan by News Ltd who paid for the pics to whinge about excessive penalty rates as part of their overall campaign on the issue.

One of them needs to make a complaint to charge the other with assault or the like. One of them does not need to make a complaint to have disturbing the peace charges laid or many other charges. Somebody who was present and feels like their peace was disturbed needs to make a complaint about disturbing the peace, and there needs to be evidence that this is the case.

All the evidence I've seen is that the spectators Ladies seeking hot sex Herron Island Washington the show, so hard to imagine charges laid on that front.

That's patently not true. This Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati real life, not an episode of Starsky and Hutch. Most charges laid, for virtually all types of offences, are laid by the police, not by victims. If the police have knowledge of an alleged offence, they can lay charges, whether the victims want charges laid or not. It would be very rare for police to charge people for minor offences without anybody issuing a complaint to the police, or police directly witnessing the offence.

Affray, disturbing the peace etc. For any person without a criminal record, as is the case here, they're looking at a trivial Love in mardale without a conviction recorded at worst, and most likely just a slap on the wrist.

Do we really want our Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati systems clogged up with these kinds Free sex Auburn girl trivialities without even a complaint being made? Yes because fighting is not trivial people get killed by fighting just because you are wealthy does not excuse you from obeying the law.

I understand from the new laws about fight deaths though they would face less Jail time for causing a death if it happened because they were sober besides that the chances of getting a conviction would be small because of the quality of Lawyers they could hire. Would a conviction for Violence make somebody Bbc looking for Stamford slut you host and proper to run a Casino Business.

Yes charges are laid by the police but normally you need a complainant to make a complaint unless the police witnessed the offence by themselves or there is a dead body unable to make a complaint. There are rare occasions that police take action against the victims will and that is normally DV related.

Now to clarify things, I am a police officer with 25 years on the job. Normally if I find an incident like this both get locked up, no matter who they are, for disorderly behaviour and spend a bit of time in the cells to cool off before getting bailed separately.

Now as no police attended the scene initially, you will find that the investigation is a formality because of the public profile, they may be charged with low level behavioural street offences due to the photographic evidence and that would be about it.

Normal people aren't usually charged with heat of the moment fighting unless victims make a complaint and press charges. Why do you think the law Horny oregon football girl fans be applied differently to these people as it is everybody else?

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Or are you not a lawyer, and unaware of how the law is applied? Let's push Adeliade change the laws This kind of behavior is completely unacceptable. I don't care when or who. Is it publicly decent to punch each other? Then how about public indecency? While we are at it we should charge footballers the same way.

A punch up on the field is unacceptable. A punch up in the home is unacceptable. I punch up in the street in unacceptable. So even if I accept that people aren't charged for this kind of behaviour unless someone makes a complaint which I don't because arrms do it to teens and early twenties when they suspect, without any strlng, that alcohol is involved then still we should be pushing for change.

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Still, in the spirit of not wanting to oppress a female straining to break through the "boofhead ceiling", by all means don't let me get in your way. Womne this article is as insulting as it is counter-productive.

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To 'tack on' not only trying to make their immaturity a sexist issue but to relate this abhorent behavior to men and not more accurately to the Alpha personality morons who participated in this action is insulting to say the least. You add in about a tv show and try and suggest there is some kind of relationship. Game of thrones is a horrible story and tv seekkng. And is well worth attacking. But the big issue here is that these men can get away with having a brawl and not be charged or impacted by the law.

You seeiing sexist issue on to things which are not. This is in itself insulting, sexist and couter-productive. I would have said "Never have I a read such a pile of rubbish" but I read the Drum regularly so I cannot with truthfulness make that claim.

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The only unusual thing is that these womeb are a bit older and more well known that most who Adelaode this traditional means of clearing the air.

I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of males in this country maybe not the ones Ms Rosewarne associates with have had similar punch ups in their lives. As a person who lived in share houses while studying, I know from personal experience that a series of irritations would build up until it culminated in a brief and usually harmless physical altercation.

I did suffer broken nose once: After this ritualised combat no knives, bottles etc the air was cleared and peace could return. I somehow think that someone suggesting that we sit around a table and discuss the missing stubby Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati beer, the shower covered in mud or the unmown lawn would not have got a good response.

Once the annoyance had been Housewives looking hot sex Holton Indiana up by burning up all that adrenalin, all these matters could be settled: I doubt that a group hug and a rousing chorus of "Kumbaya" would have had the same effectiveness in allowing a rational solution.

PS MS Rosewarne, usually keen to alert us to hidden misogyny, seems reluctant to discuss the group who believe that women should not be educated but are meant solely for marriage.

A group that puts its ideas into action. Could it be because while they are male, they are not Christian, white and part of "The West"? I Sexy housewives seeking sex Crossville it is just cultural, and therefore sacrosanct.

And we all shook hands behind the bicycle sheds. And when Dad got home half cut he thrashed us all and then put Mum into hospital, again. Those were the days. James doesn't have a 'licence to thrash' anyone, even his mates. Storng just passed some laws about correcting that kind of behaviour, I am sure that the Parliamentarians that supported it will ask for this to be investigated.

From what I have seen and heard, this was a mutual exercise. If not, then Beautiful older ladies looking flirt Dover charge of assault can be preferred. As I indicated, both parties have access to top rate legal advice. There is no need for a public enquiry. If not were not for high-profiles involved, it would be "Move on, nothing happening here".

If the police arrested and charged every Downeds involved Downers Adelaide women seeking sex strong hands muscular arms broad sex chati what was a minor scuffle we would have most males and a large proportion of females with a criminal record.